The Hidden Blade Assassin's Creed in Depth

i like the idea of ac 3 but i think allot of people are afraid that the story of the game is going to be AMERICA IS THE BEST AND THE FAIREST like you see in a lot of games and movies. but beside that i think this could be the best game or the worst depending on the new free running in the trees.

I think I'm one of the non-American members you are referring to.

At first I was a bit disappointed as, to be honest, I'm rather uneducated about American history and often dismiss it as having no notable history (something I am aware is not at all true). It just appeared to be a boring and unimaginative time period that would limit the game.

Now that I've seen some screenshots and gameplay developments, as well as read into the actual history a bit more, I can't wait!

That made me laugh pretty hard. Anyway, exactly as you said HATERS GONNA HATE and America will just move along. But honestly, ITS A FUCKING VIDEO GAME!!. Why would anyone get butt hurt over a fucking virtual world set in a time-period. So for the sake of keeping this short.....

GET THE FUCK OVER IT.

I hate to tell you but you're doing it right now. You know, making the rest of the world hate you...

I'm from Brazil, and i loved the idea of AC3 be set in American Revolution. Personally i thought it would be set on the French Revolution, because of some fan-made artwork before the release of the leaked info of AC3. But anyways, i think it is a pretty cool set for the game. I love this history time period, along with Wild West, Medieval Times and the "Mafia times(1930-1950)".

I really have good hopes for this game not just because of the new amazing gameplay features and mechanics, but also because of the history scenery.

The only thing that intrigues me is the possibility of the Devs do a game where the British are the extremely violent and bad guys when Americans are good ones that will bring peace to world in which they are f***ing god-like soldiers. I'm NOT saying that they'll DO that, but i'm afraid of the possibility of doing this. Because there are some games that do something a little bit like that.

However from what i've heard, Connor isn't going to side with any nation. He's is going to kill templars, no matter if he/she is American or British. Hopefully i heard it right.

Apart from that i think it'll be one of the best AC Games, if not the best (gotta wait to play to have a definitive opinion).

Hope no one here gets my point wrong.

I know exactly what you mean Lord_Rat. I, personally, am incredibly excited by the prospect for gameplay in the American Revolution, and seeing all the new things. This game was practically built from scratch, with most of the things we know about AC gameplay scrapped. Not the CORE (Free-Running, Assassinations, Stealth) but other things like the combat and the animations. Whereas the Free-Running, Assassinations and Stealth have been said to be ABSOLUTELY over-hauled and tweaked, fine-tuned for maximum fun, so to speak. I'm curious. Very curious

I'd like to make one thing clear: So far, Connor has only killed Redcoats in the trailer and all screenshots. This is because the British held a lot of American cities at the time, so they'll be just like the Saracens in AC1, or the Borgia guards in AC2; one type of soldier that are patrolling the streets.

That doesn't mean that the American soldiers aren't going to be doing the same thing, but it's very unlikely. I can't remember if they would patrol like other armies would or not, since it was their new found home they were fighting for.

Maybe the Templar and Byzantine mechanic, where they fought each other on sight, will make a return in the form of American and British soldiers. Of course it'll be in large battles, but maybe we'll come across random fights in the streets.

Curious is the very one word we seek my friend. haha

Agreed about the gameplay mechanics you said.

Joey, i never said my opinion was based on who Connor killed on the trailer , if that is what you thought.. No offense at all Friend.
And i agree with you, and yeah i can't see American people patrolling the area. It is Ok for Connor to kill patrolling British guy, i just don't want Connor to side with any of the 2 sides. This is my only preocupation.

EDIT: He can have Washignton as friend, British people as friend, whoever he wants as friend. I just don't want him using his Assassin abilities to help one of the sides. Also i don't want Americans to be the good guys or British the good guys. They are in a war and Connor is f***ing them all.. Hahaha

Why can't we be friends?.

Improved version.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=pkS6qZg4mo4

Oh no, I was just referring to a lot of comments around the internet. A lot of people assume that he's only killing British soldiers by all these screenshots and the trailer. I was just pointing it out.

Oh ok . And yeah agreed, i have seeing lots of comments like this. They kinda annoy me...

As long as the game is good, it may as well be set in the Africa of the Middle ages.
And Joey, I find your sig too... mesmerizing.

Thanks to a few friends I follow on Tumblr, I find some of my odd pictures I post on here. This was from an AC blog. I thought it was pretty awesome.

Don't forget, though: I STILL can't be tamed.

HAHAHAHA !

Tumblr!? v3kt0r.tumblr.com
Be warned. Tumblr = no censoring, no rules.
I tend to post anything and everything I find "cool", regardless of how intense it is.

Does anyone thing there will be any more assassins games after this or will 3 be the last?

When people do not have knowledge of something, they become frighten of unknown and shun it away - like a leper. Maybe it's because Renaissance Italy and Crusaders sound more...exotic, perhaps?

And to all that say that America doesn't have a colorful and fascinating history...shame on you.
I'm going to be quite interested to see how Ubisoft deals with themes of prejudice, slavery, and discrimination...

Obviously those people haven't read the GameInformer article, or they would've known Connor doesn't take sides.

Just saw it today. Yay !

Something that AC has made me realize: pretty much every place in the world has an interesting history, with plenty of mysterious things going on that could possibly be explained as a conspiracy. I honestly thought that the Renaissance setting would be boring, since I thought I knew a lot about if from school. Turns out, if you actually look at the time period in-depth, there was a ton of crazy shtuff going on, like the Pazzi conspiracy, and Rodrigo Borgia's reign of decadence. Don't count ANYTHING out.

I don't understand why people think this game is going to be about Americans being badass and perfect when the main character is supposed to be the most badass of all and he's british/native. Not to mention the first main story point involves American colonists murdering everyone he knows.

Also,AC3 will be hated either way they do it.

Make the British the bad guys: people bitch.

Make Americans the bad guys : American bitches and bands the game.

I doubt we'd ban the game. We'd just whine about it.

And we know which way they'll do it. Both sides have good an bad guys. This has already been made clear by Ubisoft.

The majority of American movies go to great lengths to show how evil/amoral/stupid the American government/military can be. Pretty much every action movie has the agents going rogue against their handlers. It's always that one guy who shows up and saves the day. Modern american cinema kinda strays from glorifying America a lot of the time. It's annoying that the rest of the world acts as if that is not the case.

Or it would be, if I was american.

Oh i know, just joking. I think that's the reason other countries don't like 'Mercia . Cause we whine about shit to much.

EA, you don't whine about shit. There is a fairly large disrepancy between the image a lot of people have of America and the image a lot of people have about the image a lot of people have of America. What you think we think about you... well, that is not correct most of the time. Just ask any individual and there's a high change they'll reply they don't see much wrong with America. Most of us just don't like certain parts of America, namely the conservatist people.

Don't know if i should post what i'm going to post, people may hate me in this forums after that.. But i'll do that.
Be in mind that i'm not trying to offend no one, in fact, just to clarify some thoughts... Ok let's go.

I love America, but yeah indeed, some of the Americans whine about some sh&* ..

An example is: I heard about a game that China made, where in this game the Americans are invading China and then it starts a war game.. And some Americans whined about this game, saying that they cannot make a game where America is killing Chinese people, because it is not true or fair, etc..

But guys, Americans do ALOT of games in which other countries are killing American people etc, why can't China do the same ? Call of Duty, Battlefield, Homefront, etc.. All of this game shows other countries as bad guys... So why can't you guys deal with one game, you know ?

I'm not saying any of you here in the forums do that, and i'm not saying that all Americans are like that, in fact alot of Youtubers from USA made videos saying that you (Americans) can't whine about that game because of the games such as COD, etc.. So basically just a little part of the Americans whine alot, the other majority are ok with this game and ok with other things..

So my point is, i love America, but the reason i was worried about AC3 make Americans as the incredibly badass and good ones, was basically because of what i said above..

I hope no one here gets my point wrong, also English isn't my first language so there is a possibility of you getting me wrong.. :/ I just want you to know that i don't have anything against America at all, i just think that some Americans are way to hypocrites in this aspect.

PLEASE don't get me wrong, i'm not saying all of you are, but some people are... :/

I thought what EA said was off, but I'm an American, so I couldn't really comment on that with a sense of legitimacy. As far as I can tell, what a lot of us do is get arrogant about our own beliefs/ideals and think we're flawless; most likely because of the end results of the Revolutionary War (a country with very limited resources and practically no experience in running/defending a country was able to stop the best military on the planet at the time).

Another war that comes to mind is World War 2. A lot of Americans who like to be a little too proud tend to say something like "We came in in the last half of WWII and saved everybody".

It's like buying a Hummer (bragging about wars) and trying to make up for something (our somewhat unstable nation).

Those are some non-American views I've seen about us. Does this seem accurate about the general picture?

There's whiny bitches in every country. America's bigger so there's just more of them.

I don't really hate it, I'm just dis pointed with the choice...
But like I said in another thread, I'll wait before casting judgement until Gameplay videos are released... =P

QFT

I can't even motivate myself to finish playing Revelations, I've just been replaying a bunch of old PS2 games for the last month. All I'm gonna say is that the American Revolution got me excited to play Assassin's Creed again, and that's a feeling I haven't had for two years.

Wonder who will be the voice of our 1st President?

The golden star of this cast would have to be R. Lee Ermey as Charlie Lee. He's that badass seageant from Full Metal Jacket.

I still haven't finished Revelations either. It just seems too much like hard work.

It's really not that long. If you have it, might as well try to finish it for the story input.

Playing a max of 3:30 hours a day, i finished the game in 4 days i guess.. If not 3

Oh I'll definitely finish it. But at the moment getting into university seems a little more productive.

Took me a grand total of 9 hours. I never bought any armour or used medicin, the latter only on exceptional occassions. I did everything with just the hidden blade and my poison darts.

The game was piss-easy, but boring.

Possibly boring because you skipped all the side quests and only used two weapons?

Seriously. The game can only entertain you so much if you refuse to use its systems.

I have fun with the games because I do the side quests and experiment with new weaponry. AC is all about the experimentation. If you force it to be a narrowly focused game, of course it doesn't hold up. It's like AC1 with no flag-hunting, crusader-killing, compulsive view-point seeing, or superfluous investigation-doing: you're stripping the game of its soul.

Likewise, Pri Reis's missions show a variety of interesting and sometimes difficult situations, where bombs can be used effectively, the economy system has become harder to manage, and is tied in to the assassin mission system, more than before, bomb crafting is in pretty much everything, Master Assassin missions are sometimes scripted, sometimes awesome, Assassin dens are actually pretty challenging to get through undetected, and other shiz.

Assassin's Creed has never been an amazing game to play through story mission to story mission with no optional content breaks. I hated AC1 when I played it that way, I hated AC2 when I played it that way, and I hated Brotherhood when I played it that way.

Ooof course Revelations is the third in a series of very similar games, so it's understandable if you're getting bored of the basic underlying gameplay with more vestigial changes. For me, this was the last "expansion game" of AC2 I could reasonably enjoy, though I enjoyed it far more than Brotherhood.

The last time I finished ACR, it was in 3:31:44

These missions were an attempt to encourage the player to use bombs more often. To me, it was just a tacked-on gimmick like the Den Defense. There was absolutely no point in using them unless the game forced you to.

Games should encourage you to experiment with more items, and ACR failed to do this. Given the raised difficulty with the Janissaries and the side quests (which were barely there), it was still an easy, quick game.

I'm not saying that they didn't fail on making bombs more nessecary, but there is still a lot of room for dicking around with them. I had more fun with them in the game than I would have had without.

No. It was just that the side quests didn't interest me. I could start using the sword, but what point is it if the mechanics are exactly the same as the hidden blade's? I finished all sidequests after I was done with the story. It was boring as hell.
I don't like doing extraneous stuff while playing. I do what I need to do and then move on. This whole business of side quests does nothing for me. I prefer to have a small game done well than a big game that's rather boring.
A game should not rely on sidequests for fun.

For sure, but for me, having stuff to go do in-between missions is part of the AC experience. I guess it's not for you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_x13VOpgDQ&feature=youtu.be

I cringe, not at this trailer, but at how some people are going to take it. It was a war, the Americans were the most sympathetic side of said war, and they won. It's not illegal to depict that in-game. And it's not like this trailer is all "fuck yeah!" or anything, if anything it seems creepy, implying that everything will NOT be as simple as "fuck yeah!". So, my preemptive defence of this trailer is done.

well, it does for whatever reason sport the national anthem, that's pretty close.

no side is sympathetic in a war.

Wise words.