The Hidden Blade Assassin's Creed in Depth

I was sort of thinking about the aftermath of AC:B. Except I was thinking more of how this would affect Desmond's personality. He has changed a lot since the first game, but I think this will change him even more. I can just imagine him going all psycho on the templars.
*Vidic sends some guys on Desmond*
*Desmond beats them to a pulp then grabs Vidic by the collar of his shirt*
Desmond: "We need to have a talk."
Vidic: *gulp*

I don't really think it was an illusion

On a side note, do you think Lucy's wound is lethal?

I doubt she really died, in most movies the general rule is if you don't see them die, they will return later on. You can't really confirm that Lucy died. Also time seemed to freeze around Desmond, Shaun and Rebecca did nothing to stop him, but that may have been the apple controlling them.

i think lucy was a templar

Yeah that's why she killed a bunch of them getting Desmond out of Abstergo...

If she was a Templar, they wouldn't have let Desmond severely wound her, since an undercover Templar that's in the hospital or dead makes for one heck of a stupid reveal. Not to mention that it's totally at odds with her personality, and all the actions she's taken up to this point.

i said " I THINK !!!!!!!"

THINK HARDER DAMMIT!!!!!

lol

nice one

I was thinking about this more a few weeks ago. I really started to wonder if this wasn't all in Desmond's mind. The Apple affects the mind, it appeals to peoples lesser motives and makes them dominant (Savanarola's use in Bonfire of Vanities, AC2) or bends others will to the one holding the Apple's will (Al Mualim in AC1 and Ezio's use of it in Brotherhood).

The Apple at that point did neither, as Desmond did not become a vegetable (as Al Mualim said would have happened to Altair to bend his will), it merely seemed to control his body, which does not fit with previous examples of the Apple's power. Thus, the only explanation I can deduct, is that since the Apple controls the mind (which Desmond showed to be completely clear at that time by protesting his actions), it must have happened completely within his mind.

Of course, Ubisoft could always claim the Apple had the power to control the body as well as the mind later on. The beauty of ambiguity...

Generally, if the apple is just showing you something in your mind, you won't see the glowing lines of power. You won't even see the apple glowing at all. When Altair was tricked with it at the beginning of AC1, he saw no signs of its usage, but for Desmond, crazy glowing stuff was everywhere, and physically forcing him towards Lucy. That doesn't sound like just a vision, to me.

Doing something and wanting to no do something are two completely different things. The mind is weird like that.

i think that the apple was only in his head so wen he wake´s up he´s like no i killed lucy but she is not dead. And why would the makers of ubisoft kill her she is the reason desmond is trying to become an assassin.

BTW i think that when al mualim altair tricked in thinking he was dead was also with the apple but altair mind got stronger and al mualim couldn't control him any more ells how did he tricked him in that he toughed he was dead.

The reason they'd kill her would be for shocking story twists and give desmond a more personal vendetta against the Templars.
And yes, Altair was tricked by the apple. Al Mualim even tells him at one point.

Yes, but that's my point. He didn't even know that it was happening. He didn't even see it, even though Al Mualim mustve been carrying it.

Desmond saw all of the crazy flying effects related to it. Hence I believe the Apple ditched subtlety, and began to force him to move over to it.

And the Templars have nothing to do with Lucy's possible death, so I doubt that. I don't think she'll die. If it was a Templar using the apple, yes. But a pre=programmed mind-control set by an ancient dead woman? no.

i believe that now in the last game desmond will also have the apple but won´t be controlled this was a sine of weakness so you can see how he´s changed.

It's not a sign of weakness to be controlled by the apple, any more than it's a sign of weakness to suffer severe injury from being stabbed. Humans have brains that are hard-wired to be controllable by pieces of eden. Desmond is a human. Not much he could do.

It wouldn't matter if it wasn't being controlled by Templars, Desmond would be pissed that his best friend through all of these events has been killed by his own hand. He'd take it out on anyone, making him more badass in AC3.

So you're saying that after witnessing the entire life of an assassin who spent a lot of his life searching for revenge, and learning how in the end, revenge is meaningless, Desmond is going to focus his anger on the people who had nothing to do with what he's angry about?

Desmond is not going to be a brash and angry assassin. Once he gets out of the animus, with his mind restored, he will literally have the wisdom of two life-times or more IN HIS HEAD.

Anyways, you said "personal vendetta", and that doesn't make sense if Lucy can't be saved/brought back/avenged by killing Templars.

Worst case scenario, he gets less trusting of TWCB. (Desmond has never been trusting normally. He knew about the Templars and Assassin's conflict long before he was captured, but he played dumb for Lucy and Vidic. He didn't tell the other assassins about Juno speaking to him.)

No, he'll focus his anger on the Templars, because they're the only group that he's pretty much encouraged to kill. Lucy kept him safe at Abstergo and beyond. Without her, he'd be dead by the end of AC1.

He was forced to kill his best friend. No amount of wisdom would keep anyone from wanting to take out their inner frustration. Especially if that's the last thing you remember in the present day. Maybe that's why he's stuck in the Animus. His subconscious doesn't want to face his own reality. Once he wakes up, I'd stay out of his way.

I was really referring to the trophy/achievement of the same name, but it's "personal" because Lucy has been struck down by him and a long-gone goddess. Blah, I'm about to repeat myself again.

It kind of reminds me of Altair and Adha (is that the proper spelling?) from before AC1.

I feel like that kind of motivation would make Desmond seem less interesting to me. His reason for being eager to kill templars really shouldn't be because he's angry about something really sucky that happened to him. There's no room for character development with that kind of premise. I'm still doubtful that Lucy's dead, though. She's not they type of character you kill without letting her say something in death. This is AC, for goodness sake. The game where the most despicable bad guy gets to talk for five minutes. before dying.

I hope Adha makes some sort of appearance in Altair's sequences in Revelations, that would certainly make things more interesting, especially after his relationship with Maria.