Starting a new run through of ACII
hey everyone. I tried this successfully for ACI and what it pretty much is, is a run through where you kill no one bar the main assassination targets. Ive started it for ACII and have got to the start of Sequence 2 with a kill count of 0. I cannot think of anyone in the game you have to kill to proceed with the game other than the Assassination targets, but if there is anyone please inform me. Once and if i finish with a kill count of 14 or under i will post it on youtube as proof it can be done
When you're fleeing Florence the first time, you're forced to fight one of Vierrie's thugs who is attacking Claudia and Maria. Are you counting KO's (fist knock outs) as kills? Because if so, then you have to kill or KO that guy to have Mario come and save you from the rest. If you don't count KO's as kills, then it's basically just Eagle's Bruise.
"When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."- Winston Churchhill
"Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you
no i wasn't counting KO's as kills, since they don't come up as kills in the stats. If i was then it would be impossible to do since you can't even get past the first fight with Vieri's thugs without KOing. I think it is different to Eagles Bruise since i can use weapons to assassinate the main targets, and the only reason i will fight is if i have to to proceed with the game.
OK, but what I was saying is that we already know it is possible to not kill anyone, because FLAE is doing it.
"When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."- Winston Churchhill
"Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you
if you are talking about his eagles bruise run then there are differences. He is killing people, in fact he even says that he will not run from a fight and must finish all guards of first. I am killing no guards, just KOing the essentials so they don't appear on the kill stats, and only killing all 14 assassination targets. If there is another run through FLAE is doing then i did not know about it and apologize for re posting old stuff.
finally, someone else who does this.
i documented this type of play for AC1, only killing the madatory ones, although the numbers increased alot in the end at Arsuf and Al Mualims guards
here it is
i've mentioned it for AC2 too and i decided not to do it cause the playing field has been completely altered with the addition of whores and the enemy not actually dying from KO's like they did in the first
I won't be using whores, thieves, mercenaries or throwing money unless it is absolutely necessary. And it is very easy not to kill someone but instead just knock them out, but again ill try not to knock people out unless i have to to proceed with the game. But on the bright side this style of play dose make countering and combo killing guards completely useless, so fist fighting is very limited
if you are talking about his eagles bruise run then there are differences. He is killing people, in fact he even says that he will not run from a fight and must finish all guards of first. I am killing no guards, just KOing the essentials so they don't appear on the kill stats, and only killing all 14 assassination targets. If there is another run through FLAE is doing then i did not know about it and apologize for re posting old stuff.
In eagle's bruise, he's only KO'ing people, not killing anybody. Finishing and KO'ing is not the same thing.
"When you have to kill a man, it costs nothing to be polite."- Winston Churchhill
"Kill a man, and you are an assassin. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you
Theres more than 14 main targets I think.
as i said though, the playing field has changed too much for my liking.
in the first game the only difference between fists and swords were amount of hits needed. they still had the same end result, everyone died.
in this game however the difference is much more than that.
it's too much of a gray zone. like will you count the kills the mercenarys get when they are forced on you?
cause every kill they get is a kill caused by you, although indirectly.
will you count it if you grab an enemy and another enemy kills them while trying to hit you?
in the first game i did not count the archers friendly fire at Arsuf caus i didn't actually do anything to hurt them. but in AC2 holding someone is the only way i konw to cause friendly fire and then you are much more active in it.
anyway, enough of my ranting, i would like to see what results you got for the first game
i am trying to avoid combat as much as possible and the only kills i am counting are the kills that appear in the stats. At the mo i have just killed Vieri and i have 2 kills, 1 hidden blade assassination, i couldn't find a way to properly assassinate Vieri using my hidden blade.
I have used no whores or thieves, and when the mercenaries are put under your command i told them to wait while i ran to the checkpoint.
When i did this for AC1 i found that there were some people i had to kill during the game that weren't main targets so i had about 6 or so extra kills up to MB6 when my additional kill tally went up when i had to fight my way through Arsuf and Masayaf later in MB7. But apart from the last 2 MB i would say it was successful for AC1
I've only ever seen a merc kill two people/.
i am soooooo annoyed right now. I have just done the mission practice what you preach were you have to assassinate 3 dummies using different assassination techniques. for some reason killing these dummies counts as a kill. so now i am at 5 kills 4 assassinations 1 air assassination and i am pretty damn pissed of. to make up for this i am going to try beating up 3 of the assassination targets so that they don't count as kills so i may still be able to finish the game just killing 14 or whatever it is targets
Right, just finished Wolf in sheep's clothing, this was very tricky because not only do you have to beat up guards using you fists you have to avoid accidentally triggering combo kills or counters as both count as kills when preformed near the end of an enemies life. Lorenzo is also a gigantic pain in the arse because every time you go near him to protect him he runs away from you and into more Pazzi guards.
For anyone wanting to complete this mission just using hands and not killing anyone here are a few tips. use grab and throw as much as possible to stop yourself accidentally killing via counter or combo. Throw guards into other guards. Throw guards into Lorenzo to knock him down so he can't get away from you. If you can try and get into a rhythm of throwing someone and then grabbing someone else straight away to throw again then you should find yourself being able to keep all the guards at a safe distance from Lorenzo(as long as hes on the floor and not running away from you) button mash the free hand button works pretty effectively.
5 kills
4 assassinations
1 air assassination
1 death (the death was caused when i tripped up after running into civilians whilst my health was on the last block. I didn't think this was possible.)
Just killed Jacopo de Pazzi and was surprised to see that my kill counter didn't budge.
so i am now at 2 deaths (tripped up for my first 1 
and got shot down trying to reach Antonio Maffei for the second)
10 kills
7 assassinations
2 air assassinations
3 disarms (these are just disarming Mario in the training ring)
This means all 8 targets have been killed and 3 dummies have been, so so far a success
killing these dummies counts as a kill.
ack! so i guess the kill animation triggers the kill count. oh well. i recall "killing" each of the dummies multiple times when i played thru. i dont suppose you can punch the dummies...
I tried this but i just got too frustrated. I posted it on GameFAQs but people just went lol your too scared of killing people... wtf
Im not sure how to know people out. Sometimes i would use just my fists yet i would get a kill, can you not counter them or something? Also i wouldnt get into a fight for a long time yet i would check my stats and have a kill...
Also after the dummy part you gotta kill that guy who is abusing Leonardo, it just became too much of a hassle. Instead i am going for no alerts ( the other requirement in MGS i suppose) where i try to never have a red ring around my minimap