The Hidden Blade Assassin's Creed in Depth

Ooooh, cool. Thanks for posting, EA.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLnqbzDJiaI&feature=player_embedded
trailer for it comes out feb 28th and yup it matched with the post i had earlier with the audio from this very DLC

Playing it now. Lots of visions of 1800s. Mostly of a person or group of people photographed instead of paintings.

EDIT: Looks like the Industrial Revolution.

EDIT: Someone just spoke a line from the Gettysburg Address (spoken by Abraham Lincoln).

EDIT: Lucy, you bitch!

EDIT: Waste of $10.

Is it more Desmond memories? I found those to be tedious.

It's the same gameplay, but if it was Subject 16 rather than Desmond. You see his backstory and there are lots of lasers in this one. It's pointless.

Let's say I quite like history, Desmond's parts and lasers. Is this DLC worth the price? (including Vlad's memory)

Vlad's mission is too short. They should just give that to us free (like the Mediterranean DLC). If you like the Desmond sections, but want more variety and achievements, this is good for you.

They also give you 3 multiplayer characters (Jester, Doctor, and Crusader), which is nice, but you can only customize the Crusader. The only worthwhile part of this pack is the Subject 16 part, and that's still just telling us that he had daddy issues and Lucy is a bitch.

Not worth $10. Maybe $5.

Can you tell me how exactly Lucy is a bitch? What did she do?

It's one of the new achievements:

PMSing hard (25G) - Discover that Lucy is a bitch.

Exactly

@DAZ: I'll put it in spoilers for those that don't already know by now...

Might just youtube this instead of buying it.

Yes.

I tried, but it's so excruciatingly boring to watch that I quit. Here's a link to the first memory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6_cgAk7cb0

Watching it now. I did a double take when the achievement Part of the Creed popped up...

Wait.. Is that achievement you guys were talking about actually like.. An achievement? If so, that's hilarious!

Found some binary in the second or third sequence and decoded it as "Clay is Adam, Adam is Clay."

Part of the Creed is a real achievement. PMSing hard was a joke.

I finished watching the playthrough on YouTube. Glad I didn't buy it. Everything was like a Desmond memory. What's next, an all Den Defense DLC? The parts about Lucy didn't have her voice. They had to wrap up her story without Kristen Bell's help.

It actually wasn't that boring to play. It was much more fun than the Desmond missions, and the music and environments were much more fantastic. It was like Portal, only more tactile in nature and with a much more interesting environment to pass through.

Moments like the rave music popping in as you floated through lazer obstacles seemed to happen every few minutes, and their impact was always greater. I guess it's better for me since I liked the Desmond sequences, and wanted more. These were much more lengthy, challenging, and intelligently designed.

As to the part of the creed thing, I don't really see the big deal. A creed is a doctrine, it's not odd to say you're part of a doctrine. If you act out the tenets, you're part of the creed. Obviously it's not totally literal. And it's just an achievement title. I don't begrudge whoever writes those for trying to find a different way to say "welcome to the brotherhood". Keep the cheevo names fresh.

Perhaps 'Part of the Order' would have worked better? Although that may sound a little ambiguous, depending on your interpretation of the word 'order', at least it makes more sense.

*Created

That's what I'm for. When I play the games, the word "Creed" means what they follow in order to do their job. That's like saying, "He's part of the rules we follow" rather than "He's part of our society".

Is this the final word on Lucy and why she had to be killed?

Yeah.. The Assassins really shot themselves in the foot with that one. That is:

I can see Desmond and his father, with their already somewhat bad past (Desmond leaving his family behind for himself), fighting over the Lucy situation. Desmond will feel guilty for it, but also sympathetic about her place at the time. His dad with only think of the Assassins over her needs and deem her a traitor. There's a possibility that the series will get more emotional now. I'd hate it if they just forgot about it.

So..Lucy isn't to blame?.

It was honestly all William and Vidic's faults. Both the Assassins and Templars just messed with Lucy repeatedly. She was just a puppet thrown around in a whirlwind. And when she was finally about to find peace, when she found someone she could trust not to leave her again and someone that actually cared about her as something more than a soldier or tool, her life was taken from her.

I will never forget that. Lucy Stillman is one of the main reasons I'm still playing the AC games to this day. It's not so much about the character. It's about the forced choices and unfair decisions behind the character and the hardships she faced that made her so special.

Ah, okay. So...she and Daniel cross share a similar back story.

Kind of but not really. Whereas Lucy's actions were borne of loneliness and no side having a true acceptance of her, Daniel Cross was brainwashed through the Bleeding Effect, and if that brainwashing were to be disabled, then he would be an incredibly powerful Assassin with Templar intel. Right now though, he's an incredibly powerful Templar with Assassin intel.. And a hidden blade.

The fact that Lucy was both a triple agent and still a sympathetic character is a perfect example of what sets Assassin's Creed apart from most narratives. Everything is SO grey. You expect a character that obviously has a good heart to be on the side of the good guys... but you forget that there are no good guys. Just ways of thinking. I've seen a thousand movies where the heroes were agents of secret organizations that control most of the world, and enforce order, and their "evil" opponents want freedom from their regime

A conflict where either side looks like the hero from their own perspective. That's what every conflict is like, I guess, but it's rare to showcase it like AC does.

Why are YouTube comment sections so infuriating? You didn't pay for it, why does there need to be discussion after that? Of course Ubisoft's main purpose is to make money! Seriously. Consumers lack all perspective nowadays and their first reaction is to lash out when a company does something that doesn't fit with what they think is right. And really? This DLC made some people so angry they actually suggest boycotting Assassin's Creed III, which could very well be not just the best game in the series, but one of the most innovative games of all time?

Good lord.

I just remembered I took a few pictures of a certain Native American picture in this DLC as I was playing (I was looking everywhere for clues about AC3). I should upload those. I'll probably do it tomorrow. I say this because that was the ONE clue I didn't pay attention to, and it was the big hint Ubi was giving us.

Maybe the connection with the photos was that they were America-related...

To be honest, I wasn't even aware of this DLC until this forum topic appeared. That's when I decided to go to Assassinscreed.wikia and look up gameplay of this DLC on YouTube.

I just saved $10.00...

True, some of the scenery and environments are absolutely gorgeous, and it does reveal a lot of background information and a shocking revelation, but in the end...is that truly worth $10? For me, no. Game-wise, it was signifigantly lacking in oomph that The Da Vinci Dissapearance had.

Gotta say...Brotherhood was better than revelations.

And people wonder why once loyal fans are starting to turn against their favorite franchise...

Seriously, after 2 years of unyielding avalanche of s*it, and capped of with a "stellar" DLC, who wouldn't see the AC franchise in distain? I'm even considering buying the game used.

Good plan. There should be plenty of them, for cheaps. <-at Ubisoft.

It really is a waste of money (believe me, I paid for it).

I actually have seen Revelations on the shelves for $15 in the past couple weeks. Yeah...

$15? Really? Wow. And it was released in November. As of right now (middle of March 2012), that game was only at the shelf for about 3.5 months.

Epic fail, Ubisoft. Epic fail...

Even not considering I will go through the game many and many times for speedrunning, I think it was worth the price. Not for the story, of course, but for the gameplay. The janissaries, the hookblade and the bombs, combined with a brand new environment, all this made it very pleasant. But this is my opinion.

I blow my hard earned $60 on an AC game because I wanted an amazing historical free-roaming action-adventure game. I demand to be entertained by an engaging story, moral amiguity, lovable characters, and fun (and radical changes) gameplay.

Revelations has failed on nearly of that, but this, too, is just my opinion.

i don´t know why most of you hate the story of revelations so much i liked it it was better than brotherhood.

And for the dlc i liked the Desmond journeys they where something to change the passe of the game so i ask why if you hatted the Desmond journey´s would you buy the dlc it was mentioned a long time ago that they would be like hat

I didn't hate the Desmond Journey segments. I liked them. I'm just disappointed at the lack of content compared to the price of the dlc. All we get is a quick S16-themed Desmond Journey, the shortest and pointless lair (Vlad the Impaler's tomb), and a couple of multiplayer characters that we can't even customize. It's not worth the price. If you bought all dlcs, you're buying the entire game for just about $80 AFTER you already have it.

I agree with this a little.But i must say, you really were asking a bit much. Especially when i assume you already are aware that revelations did have shorter Dev schedule than Brotherhood.

I never bought the Lost Archive DLC, and I mildly enjoyed the Desmond Segments. What I main argument is that the Lost Archive DLC isn't worth $10.

Maybe it's just me, but I have extremely high expectations in one of my (now ex) favorite franchises in the series.
I don't lower my standards when it comes to the video-game industry, but that's just me...

Anyone notice how Subject 16 looks a lot like Altair's son?