The Hidden Blade Assassin's Creed in Depth

I read that last week. The Mirror's Edge similarity thing didn't sound too good but we have to see what the developers have to say. I don't think that adding such elements will be good for a sandbox franchise, and I'm not referring to the 1st person gameplay. There is a lot to explain since things do not seem to turn around the Animus any more so HUD and interface with NPC's are going to change.

I'm still waiting for a reason why they showed

Unless the explanation comes later in the game, since I'm not even close to finished yet.

Don't worry, your answers are en route, just make sure you finish the codex (which you will eventually)

A point against their idea of the game taking place entirely in the future is that in a couple of interviews leading up to AC2's release, it was stated that the animus and reliving ancestral memories is the core of the franchise and will not be going away in future sequels. It was said by Patrice and by another guy, one of the producers, I believe.

I guess it's possible that the ratio between time spent in the future versus the past might be adjusted a little, but I would wager that, like the previous two games, the next one will primarily take place in ancestral memories.

Only time will tell for sure.

You're right, those guys at gameradar.com are just good for walkthrougs and cheats, when it comes to reviews and writing REAL ARTICLES they are not the ones for the job. We'll just have to wait 6 months more and see what the producers have to say.

6 months? Why? Whats happening in 6 months?
Do you guys think Desmond will still be in the Animus in AC3?

Spoiler: Highlight to view

And now that Desmond is a trained assassin, is there going to be guns in AC3? I mean why wouldn't the Abstergo guys use them? He is obviously going to use the hidden blade, he got one at the end of the game, but the game is set in the present, so guns are an obvious option right?

I said 6 months cause that was what I'm specting for the developers to say anything about the sequel, or maybe they will give some information about it when the release the DLC. If the use guns, I think they'll be used like in Mirror's Edge, when you only used a few bullets when it was necessary. Again, maybe I shouldn't have said that about gameradar.com, their theory seems kinda logic, but still has a lot to explain. Anyway, the main concern about ACIII will be if you use the Animus or not.

Ouch! Those sound like fighting words, FLAE. *gets popcorn*

Yes, I'm sorry about what I said, I didn't know that FLAE worked at GR.com. Guess that sometimes I get too excited and let some words escape my mouth. Again, my apologies to FLAE, didn't mean to start any serious discussion.

Desmond is probably gonna be back in the Animus in AC3,

It's not a big deal, after they wrote that article about the greatest game trailers ever were too serious I kind of let em go. Well, that and they wouldn't let me help on the AC2 review because my 360 broke

And I still think that AC3 will be during the Roman Empire. If you're curious as to why, talk to joe about the French AC comic featuring Altair, Ezio, and the Roman Assassin we see in the secret room of the Villa Auditore. I'm sticking by that, and for the record, I think modern guns would ruin Assassins Creed, personally.

That's such a... ummm.... what's the word??.... I can only think of one word in spanish "alivio". Anyway, I feel better now it has beeen cleared up, have a nice day

So your thinking they'll go back in time? Now that I would not have expected. But IF AC did go into the future (and keep in mind I have little experience with shooter games except Mass Effect which I adored) I would hope it would stay in that sorta aspect. I related to Shepard, he was real and human (if not a bit superhuman just like our Assassins) ...which brings me to POINT! (but I should put that in AC2 forums )

@the comic thing, I havent read it, only the 3 page teaser they posted and I had to use the internet to translate most of the bubbles, my french sucks.

However I would love to see a pre-Altair ancestor, but if we move into the twentieth century, I would also like to see an Assassin kicking Nazi butt and helping the resistance, however I imagine that would be highly controversial and Ubi wouldn't want to cause that much controversay.

*cough* Saboteur

Rob took the words right out of my mouth. If you want a game that kicks Nazi ass (other than MoH: Airborne, of course) go pick up Saboteur. The whole game is basically the same idea as Inglorious Basterds.

Killin Nazis.

Thanks for that!! It looks exactly like what I wanted, thats another game going onto my post christmas list.

Ubi takes an in-house poll, whichever country and time wins the poll they work their game around...everyone knows that!

I didn't knew it.

This is my take on how ACIII might turn out to be~

The game will be split with both the past and the present, basically what will happen in the present is Desmond

Now comes the other part that I'm thinking for the past, the locations for

This is what I think anyway... xD;
What do you say about it...? =)

lol, lilk was joking.

^Oh, estocada en el pecho.

In a somewhat unrelated story, the site just voted Batman: Arkham Asylum as Game of the Year. Uncharted 2 finished second and Assassins Creed II finished third ahead of Modern Warfare 2. Fan voting was almost identical.

I think AA should be down to third, and uncharted and AC be bumped up one.

o.O Eh? huh? What?

A phrase in spanish, like saying "touche".
In the GOTY subject, Gamespot.com voted Demon's Souls as the winner, the Rader's Choice Award is yet to be declared.

Honestly, I don't even remember Demons Souls. And I think Gamespot blew a lot of their picks. They voted Killzone 2's multiplayer over Modern Warfare 2's? What the hell is that?

To be fair, killzone 2 multiplayer was way better than anything I've seen. I haven't played MW2 multiplayer, so I don't know, though.

I'll go with sbredflag, MW2 multyplayer is outstanding, but have you played Killzone 2? It is brilliant, nearly perfection.

One idea is that because of the Bleeding Effect, Desmond will no longer NEED an Animus. But during certain parts of the game, he'll pass out and be able to control the Bleeding Effect, so he can visit his ancestor's DNA and see what he needs to see. When he wakes up, there might be a big battle, with guns this time, but seeing as Desmond doesn't have any guns, he'll have to escape.

Needless to say, the game will include a LOT of stealth.
Or a Mirror's Edge style gun system, that kills enemies easily, but only has like 4 bullets, slows you down like a turtle and makes enough noise to wake up all of China at 2:00 in the morning.

EDIT: They could do the Riddick thing, where you can pick up a gun, but can't move while using it.

[spoiler] ac3 might go back further in time ya know?like romans and stuff. or the greeks..imagine fighting madusa.that would be so cool.or he could be like a samurai in anchient china. that would also be cool

how did this coneversation turn into a talk about killzone when were discussing AC3

Samurai in ancient China?
You should check your history books man, anyway, Ubi, always mentioned the possibility of a Japanese ancestor, maybe during the the 16th or 17th century? But then Minerva's words come out and remind us, time is running out for the Assassins and they have to find the other temples.

When we were discussing about the GOTY award for a brief period.

We keep bringing up the fact that subject sixteen had an ancestor from the Roman era and now apparently there's a Roman assassin down in the Assassins Sanctuary underneath the Villa.

However there are a few things that I'm assuming that will determine how AC3 turns out. My prediction is as follows.

The first thing is that every other memory block will be with a different assassin in a different time period. The reason being that I believe each of the listed assassins in the Sanctuary found a temple with the exception of Altair. Every other memory block will be an assassination, and then a search and finding of the temple. Where will these temples be? Well, there are roughly six (possibly seven) major assassins I can think of, so would that mean the seven natural wonders of the world could be where they are? I'm just speculating here but the plot all makes sense.

And example would be Quian Gal. His first memory block would be the assassination of Genghis Khan, and the following would be his discovery of the temple. Then Desmond exits the animus and travels to said location and uncovers the temple before hooping back in the animus and finding the next one. Or like DAZ said before, maybe the animus is no longer needed and he can just revisit whenever he's ready (although I kind of doubt this because the animus is such a core part of the game).

However one thing that throws this whole theory out of whack is the Piece of Eden project started by stab back on AC maps. What troubles me is that each Piece of Eden is ACTUALLY a temple, and if that's the case, then there are roughly 30 temples that will need to be covered. 30 memory blocks sounds ridiculous, but again, it's still a possibility.

*facepalm*

Are you sure about that? I thought that only the big Assassins' logo marks on Altair's hidden Codex map were Vaults/temples.

That is one hell of an idea FLAE. I agree with you 100% on that.

I've been thinking that each sequence may deal with a different ancestor. The thing that first brought it to my mind was that comic book that we got a preview of. The preview dealt with his Roman ancestor, but on Amazon, the description stated that it covers several ancestors. So I thought, so might AC3. After all, who knows, maybe each of Desmond's ancestors uncovered one "Vault" that they need to look for, or at least clues suggesting the location of each vault.

So if we apply this theory, then the seven ANCIENT locations are:

Pyramids of Egypt

Hanging Gardens of Babylon

Statue of Zeus at Olympia

Temple of Artemis at Ephesus

Mausoleum of Maussollos at Halicarnassus

Colossus of Rhodes

Lighthouse of Alexandria

Now that's the ancient world, which would be the most likely IMO. However, here is the list for the Medieval world that seems to be a bit more spread out and fitting for the assassins found in the sanctuary:

Stonehenge (spare assassin or possibly one of subject sixteen's ancestors)

Colosseum (Roman Assassin)

Catacombs of Kom el Shoqafa (Egyptian Assassin)

Great Wall of China (Chinese Assassin)

Porcelain Tower of Nanjing (it should be pointed out that the tower was destroyed but is currently being rebuilt, possibly the Mongolian Assassin or )

Hagia Sophia (Babylonian Assassin)

Taj Mahal (Persian Assassin? (did Xerxes' rule extend into India? I'll have to ask Leonidas...))

So that seems to be a bit more spread out, but then we have the locations of the Pieces of Eden. Based on those locations, I've chosen the most important and relavent ones to be on this seven list. They are:

Stonehenge

Garden of Hesperides

Pyramids of Giza

Persepolis

Great Wall of China OR the Chinese Pyramids

Peaks of Atlantis

Solomon's Temple

Now I understand that we've already seen Solomon's Temple in AC1 and that the Piece of Eden from there had already been claimed, but I still believe it's one of the temples, and that's probably the first place that the crew will go being that they already know where it is. What would REALLY help with this theory of AC3 is if the statement NoFlogging made about the game actually taking place in Italy was true, because then they could just drive to almost all of the temples without having to drastically go overseas.

Anyway, these are the three different lists, and I could still be wrong. What the point of this is is to say what the probable locations will be if my theory of how AC3 will turn out is correct. Again, though, it's all speculation.

About the Taj Mahal, construction began in 1632... Xerxes ruled 1000 years prior. If something took place in the Taj Mahal, it would have to be after Ezio's time. So no.

We've forgotten something. Where did Eden actually exist? I'm guessing it's a place, because

Well wasn't the Garden of Eden supposed to be in between the river Tigris and the river Euphrates, which is in modern day Iraq?

Though the bit at the end looked, to me, more like Africa, with Mount Kilimanjaro in the distance. This also ties in with theories that humanity began in Eastern Africa, in the so called "Cradle of Life".

According to stab's Piece of Eden project, the Garden of Hesperides (Golden Apples) is in the Atlas Mountains in Morocco.

I also thought that Eden was somewhere in the Holy Land, but as to where it really is I have no idea.

And thanks for clearing up the Taj Mahal red.

Lawl, this is similer to my thory I posted a bit back... xD;

Here's an idea to get this topic rolling again: We're already discussing the present part of the game in one topic, and multiplayer in another, but what about the past? How do you think assassinations would work regarding playing in the animus? Do we kill the famous target and then find the temple, or perhaps another idea?

I have a little concern, if we get to explore different ancestors during different eras, that means we get to play many different dungeons/cities like the assassin tombs? Also, you still are playing with the Animus, does that also means you're not aloud to play in 2012? Or perhaps just in little battles like the one in the hideout? Now, that would really decrease the fully explorable, sandbox cities to what we are used to. If you see it from that angle, a futuristic Mirrors' Edge style type of free running would be awesome, perhaps in a small town. And if they actually create an actual small city, would there be more? Instead of horses you travel in cars, airplanes? We have a lot to consider in here.

What's really going to impact our predictions is what happens in AC2.5, that's assuming that we're outside of the animus at some point. But then again we'd probably just be on a truck, and even then I don't see why the team would need to revisit Ezio's life any further than they already have.

I've been replaying the first Assassin's Creed lately [HUD-less run!] and I had a thought about the issue of cars in a modern ACIII. Desmond says he never used a car, only a motorcycle. So, in ACIII, why not just not let Desmond drive? He wouldn't know how to drive a car, but motorcycles would fit the mold of horses much better. There have been other successful open-world games that didn't let you drive [inFamous, for one].

I can see Desmond speeding down the freeway on a Kawasaki holding a sword over his head now

I've thought that the modern segments of AC3 would have a really anachronistic feel to them. Two Crusades-era organizations with ideals dating back to the dawn of society clash for control of ancient buildings in the near future, and the main character wears jeans, a hoodie, and a Renaissance-era bracer. Continuing that with motorcycles as horses would work.

Honestly though I think it is most likely, what SBI wrote sounds nothing like Assassins Creed