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Ezio gonna die in AC:B?

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I've heard some rumors that ezio in the end of Ac:B he is oging to die. Puzzled
I HOPE THAT THIS ISN'T TRUE! I DON'T WANT TO SEE EZIO DIE!!! ARGH! Crying Crying
If someone knows something, please tell!

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He won't die. He has to pass on a descendant for Desmond's bloodline. If he does die, then it'll happen after he impregnates the ancestor, but it'll be from a different perspective of some sort.

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He won't die. He has to pass on a descendant for Desmond's bloodline. If he does die, then it'll happen after he impregnates the ancestor, but it'll be from a different perspective of some sort.

Yep i think that too, but before he dies he could have had sex Tongue with Caterina Sforza. Tongue
It's a good thought i guess...

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It would really be a buzzkill if they had a really elaborate sex scene that went on for about 5 mins, then he has a heart attack. Exclamation Mark

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It would really be a buzzkill if they had a really elaborate sex scene that went on for about 5 mins, then he has a heart attack. Exclamation Mark

But before he goes to rome, in AC:B, when he came back from the vatican. Like in the single-player demo, he is in his bed with caterina then a cannon ball destroys his room and begin the "Siege of Monterigioni". now the question is: if ezio had sex with caterina before the Cesare army starts to attack?

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Doesn't Caterina say something like "Ready to go again?" or something? I don't know, maybe this game doesn't have Desmond controlling Ezio. Perhaps it's just an "Adventures of Ezio" title, where it's you as Ezio himself. They DID say that Desmond doesn't show up until the end of the game. Whoa! Revelation! Shock

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Cool <----- Based on Ezio

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Doesn't Caterina say something like "Ready to go again?" or something? I don't know, maybe this game doesn't have Desmond controlling Ezio. Perhaps it's just an "Adventures of Ezio" title, where it's you as Ezio himself. They DID say that Desmond doesn't show up until the end of the game. Whoa! Revelation! Shock

Yep, i guess you're right.

and yes! Cool <-------- based on ezio. you are right! lol

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No, it's still from within the Animus. Where did you get find out that Desmond doesn't appear until the end?


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No, it's still from within the Animus. Where did you get find out that Desmond doesn't appear until the end?

In the first Game Informer article. Someone posted images of the pages a while ago in another forum.

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It's already been confirmed that this is a 100% continuation, beginning exactly where AC2 left off (ie: Desmond and crew in the van). It's still Desmond in the animus, so we won't see Ezio's death unless Desmond switches over to another ancestor (which would have to be Ezio's child or grandchild).

I really see no reason why they would do that just to show us Ezio's death, as that would be in very poor taste IMO.

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They probably won't kill off any main characters anyway until the very end of the series. It's common to do that,

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that's what Halo 3 did (sort of), that's what God of War did, that's what Red Dead Redemption did,
and maybe that's what Assassins Creed will do with Desmond or Lucy. Or both, how dramatic would that be?

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I think everyone is forgetting something, when we see Ezio being born it's from a 3rd person perspective but their is no one else in the room. Same with cut scenes. Seeing Ezio die wouldn't require a new Assassin, just that the past portion of the game ends then as well. He doesn't have to die in a battle he could just die of old age, or disease.

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I think everyone is forgetting something, when we see Ezio being born it's from a 3rd person perspective but their is no one else in the room. Same with cut scenes. Seeing Ezio die wouldn't require a new Assassin, just that the past portion of the game ends then as well. He doesn't have to die in a battle he could just die of old age, or disease.

I REALLY HOPE THAT EZIO DIES OF OLD AGE! I DON'T WANT TOO SEE HIM STABBED BY CESARE OR OTHER BIT&*$ LIKE THE BORGIAS.
And ezio could and need to have a son, to continue the bloodlines until it reaches Desmond.

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I think everyone is forgetting something, when we see Ezio being born it's from a 3rd person perspective but their is no one else in the room.

The game works in a third-person camera angle, but Desmond would really be seeing everything from a first-person perspective. We don't recall our own memories from a third-person perspective, now do we? Smile We don't need to see exactly what Desmond sees during that scene because being inside a womb would be pitch black and any voices would be quiet and muffled at best. That doesn't make for entertainment.

Don't forget the scene with Altair's son's conception. The view shifted to the son, but again, from a third-person perspective (which is the staple of the series anyhow). That is the same perspective we were seeing in Ezio's birth scene. It's not that there was "no one else in the room" but that Ezio was there, inside of his mother. Once Ezio was conceived, the genetic memory perspective would have shifted away from Giovanni and into Ezio in the womb, just like with Altair's son in the scene with Altair and Maria.

Once Ezio has a child, the view would be passed on to the child. So unless Ezio dies shortly after conceiving a child (and still in the vicinity of the mother), there's no way we would see it. Not from Desmond's perspective anyway. And so far we've only seen Ezio and Altair from Desmond's perspective (not including the DS/PSP/iPod games).

I really don't know why people struggle so much with the concept of viewing ancestral memories via genetic memory. Sure, it's complete fiction, but it makes sense within the game world and (at least so far) has been consistently following its own rules. Seeing Ezio's death from Ezio's perspective would totally go against that, since any memories experienced by Ezio after his child was conceived would not be passed onto the child genetically and thus would not be memories carried in Desmond's DNA.

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Ah. Thanks for explaining that Asaic Smile

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I really don't know why people struggle so much with the concept of viewing ancestral memories via genetic memory. Sure, it's complete fiction, but it makes sense within the game world and (at least so far) has been consistently following its own rules. Seeing Ezio's death from Ezio's perspective would totally go against that, since any memories experienced by Ezio after his child was conceived would not be passed onto the child genetically and thus would not be memories carried in Desmond's DNA.

*sigh* Not this again....


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*sigh* Not this again....

You'd think people would get it by now. Smile

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Not what I meant.


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I know what you mean.

For some reason people just keep refusing to accept that genetic memories can very well be transmitted post conception through morphogenic resonance...

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Yeah I know what you mean, I struggle to accept it every day, one day I will get over it though I guess ( no idea wtf is going on)

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The strangest thing is that Assassin's Creed fans can buy a man falling three hundred meters into a bale of hay, but can't accept the idea of a female ancestor because "EGGS ARE PRODUCED AT BIRTH SO MEMORIES WOULD NOT CARRY ON".

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The strangest thing is that Assassin's Creed fans can buy a man falling three hundred meters into a bale of hay, but can't accept the idea of a female ancestor because "EGGS ARE PRODUCED AT BIRTH SO MEMORIES WOULD NOT CARRY ON".

I think that the memory is GENETIC, not based on sperm. Whoever lies in your family tree (giving that they are direct lines of your family tree, i.e. mothers, fathers, grandparents, etc, and not uncles, aunts, cousins) pass on genetic memory that you can relive when you enter an animus. Thus giving you the ability to reenact each one's memories, including those of opposite gender. I already talked about this several times. lol

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I think that the memory is GENETIC, not based on sperm.

What do you think 'genetic' means? Smile

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I think that the memory is GENETIC, not based on sperm.

What do you think 'genetic' means? Smile

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Haha, what I meant was not just male-to-male, but with every member of that line.

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Haha, what I meant was not just male-to-male, but with every member of that line.

Good point. Big smile

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