http://www.thehiddenblade.com/soviet-assassins-creed-comic
After watching the trailer in that topic, a thought occurred to me. Would the Assassins be more predisposed to Communism over Capitalism, after all there experiences with the Piece of Eden, they might find the idea of exploiting the weak and using influence for people's personal greed abhorrent? They might find the idea of Marxism more palatable, that way (in theory), no one person will be controlling the population?
Discuss, but remember this is just a fictional group in a fictional universe, I don't want this thread to turn political.
I have no doubt that this will get out of hand. Just like my reference to religious views, political views have the same effect. I probably won't respond to this forum very often, if at all, but we'll see.
I haven't looked at the comic link yet, but it seems to me that the Assassins might be drawn to the theory of communism, but would quickly realise that it's unworkable in a practical sense. They seem to me to be a pragmatic bunch (such as allowing poison as an acceptable assassination device). Although the Assassin Order has some overlap with communism, it's the Order that they are loyal to and any resemblance to communism is coincidental.
It makes sense that the Templars would be drawn to capitalism, though. They're probably the ones who invented it.
JoeyFogey, I hope you change your mind. I'd be interested to hear your views. I'd hate to think anyone here feels they can't express their opinions.
Communism and the Assassins seems to make sense as one of their aims is to stop the Templars rising to power and taking over. Obviously, in principle, Communism works so I think the Assassins would favour it to ensure equality and prevent any major group, including the Templars, becoming dictators.
However, as we know, Communism normally fails (trying to stay out of real politics but failing here) so I'm not sure the Assassins would maintain support for it. They may as, despite being the protagonists of the games, the Assassins are not perfect and have their own ideas but I'd like to think they'd see Communism as a failure.
I pretty much agree with Lisa that the Assassins have similar views to Communists but would try to stay separate from it, to maintain their own ideas and values, and to prevent a downfall of the Order if Communism (inevitably) fails.
i think that they might go towards socialism, but not as far as communism.
cause socialism works
wheras communism like you already said only works in theory but completely fails in practice.
JoeyFogey, I hope you change your mind. I'd be interested to hear your views. I'd hate to think anyone here feels they can't express their opinions.
Ok, fine! lol
All I really think about this is that the Assassins won't label their World Order as Communism or Socialism. They will, in fact, just call it the Assassin's Creed or the Assassin Order. Yes, their view on protecting free will and the individual is much like Socialism (if not a direct influence) but they will never admit that. It is their own respectable way of life that can actually work for all peoples.
I think I agree with Patrick and Lisa. They are no strangers to socialist ideas, but I have always seen them as more of what Machiavelli describes in The Prince, people leaded by a strong leader, but yet, with no real powers. Still, it depends on what angle you are looking it.
I see things backwards from you all it seems. Ezio invests in his town to attract more people, to earn a bigger profit. He's all for making bank. The templars had to give up their possessions to join the order, and the order used it as they saw fit. Seems like the templars would be the socialists and not the assassins. As for Machiavelli, remember, The Prince was written as satire.
The templar ideology is similar to communism, while the assassin mentality is similar to anarchism.
That said, we see no actual plan or effort from the part of the assassins to bring forth an anarchistic utopia. The historical Syrian Nizari Ismaili of Rashid ad-Din Sinan was a very utopistic sect. But the danger of utopia is depicted as something to be avoided in both AC and ACII.
It' more of a balancing force that Altair tries to embody. Fighting against injustice and exploitation. Not out of any ideology, but more out of a down-to-earth humanity.