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So far I've encountered two significant inconsistencies that make me feel like I completely missed some cutscenes or something. Perhaps we're to just assume that certain things happened during the time gaps between sequences, but it still feels wrong for such important plot points to be glossed over.

I'm labeling them by sequence for those who have made it that far and want to share without fear of spoiling things for later parts of the game. I just made it to Sequence 10 myself so I'd like to avoid spoilers beyond that point. Feel free to discuss other story inconsistencies you find as well, but please label them by sequence and place in spoiler tags.

Sequence 6

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Ben Franklin. We met him initially as Haytham and did "interactive" conversations with him in the general store. We know that those pages floating around in the wind for the last couple decades are from his book (silly, yeah).

What I found odd, however, was that when you encounter Ben for the first time as Connor, they already seem to know each other. It's almost like you're carrying on Haytham's conversations using Connor as a placeholder. I feel like I missed a scene where the two meet and become acquainted.

Sequence 9

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Connor and Haytham meet up in an old abandoned church in the middle of nowhere. This was their first meeting, yet they already know about each other.

It's reasonable that Connor knows who Haytham is. We can safely assume that Connor's mother told him all about Haytham when he was young. But how does Haytham know about Connor?

When they meet in the church, Haytham pounces on Connor from above. Connor looks up at him and says "Father" and Haytham casually responds, "Connor". He knew this was his son. Furthermore, he called him Connor. How does he know him by this name? How does he know him at all, given that this is their very first meeting? Connor says as much two missions later during their dialogue. It is also revealed that Haytham didn't know that he had a son until recently.

None of the other templars in Haytham's group were aware that this young man was Haytham's son. They didn't even know his name, nor did they care to. So it seems odd that Haytham both realizes that this man in front of him is his son and that his name is Connor. Especially when just a few missions earlier in the prison, Haytham all but ignored Connor, not caring who he was or what his fate would be.

First Haytham is completely oblivious to Connor's existence, then suddenly he knows all about him. It just feels like there's something missing.

Is there a novel for AC3? Perhaps that might fill in some gaps.

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I know exactly what you mean for both sequences.
Niandra and I also discovered (or more like remembered) a story inconsistency in Modern Times, for the
End of the Game

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Although he and I have discussed plenty of theories, at the end they still don't tell us who Eve is. Also, from seeing the ending, it's plain to see that this can't be the end of the Modern Storyline. Might be the end of Desmond's, sure, but there are so many unresolved problems, some of which were just created that Ubisoft wouldn't just leave like that.

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yes! the one for sequence 9 threw me a bit and i wondered if i fell asleep while playing last night. i must have missed the cutscene for sequence 6, however ... i've never met him as connor.

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Yeah, I never met him either.

As for the other one, I find it highly unlikely that none of the

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Templars knew his name by that point. They'd locked him up and learned about his activities, with their contacts it would have been easy. Conner's name is known by many people not affiliated with either order who could have been tricked into telling.

As for Eve and other 16 related things, while Desmond may have been the receiver of these messages, they were obviously not all meant for him to carry out. Eve may be Juno. 16 may have been talking nonsense. In either case, the modern assassins have all Desmond's animus records, including, it seems his Revelations ones, and can use the info contained in them in the future. (maybe his data was restored as he awoke from the coma?)

As for inconsistencies, I found it odd that Connor learned the purpose of the actions of each Templar he killed, but still asked Haytham why they did what they did. It might be that he didn't trust them.

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Calvar The Blade wrote:
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As for the other one, I find it highly unlikely that none of the Templars knew his name by that point. They'd locked him up and learned about his activities, with their contacts it would have been easy. Conner's name is known by many people not affiliated with either order who could have been tricked into telling.

It was clear from the dialogue in those scenes that they didn't know. CL didn't even catch on to who he was until later.

I have a feeling that some things suffered during story draft revisions, because it just feels unfinished. And not just that part but a number of parts allude to things that we never saw happen but seem important enough to have actual scenes for. Instead we get extended scenes with things that don't matter at all to history or the plot, like all the homestead crap. I'm just finishing up all that post-game and it's boring as hell. Feels really 'dropped in'.

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I don't find it boring. I find it involving and interesting. It makes more sense if you do it parallel to the main story. I loved how the separate quest chains cross-polinated, and I loved especially the last few ones involving Achilles

I think this game's story started out well, slowed down a bit after Connor met Achilles, and ramped up from there on out. Again, about the name thing, they didn't know WHO he was. Lee didn't know that he was that boy from all those years ago, but Haytham first talks to Connor LONG after that is finished and after Lee learns who he is. It would have been easy to learn the name Connor from one of the decent amount of people who know it, or someone they told it to. Much of the higher up colonials knew his name, and the Templars have eyes everywhere.

There ARE inconsistencies and things that could have been done a bit better. But I thought the writing was great, every character was interesting, the twists were fantastic, and the wide variety of themes that were explored were done very well.

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