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The Manifesto of the Instruments of the First Will is unlocked by collecting Sticky Notes in Present Day.
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"MANIFESTO OF THE INSTRUMENTS OF THE FIRST WILL writ by a TRUE DISCIPLE this day 21 October 2013 in anticipation of the anniversary of HER ASCENSION, MAY SHE GUIDE US INTO THE GREY...

...Being that life is both sacred and profane - priceless and worthless - fleeting and eternal we submit. Being that life can be as easily construed from primordial swamps as from a stinking Petri dish we submit. Being that THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE imbued us with life and may remove it as readily should we defy or deny their original plan we submit...

...Being that it is well understood that tools homes cars cutlery pencils tables books chairs domesticated animals light bulbs mobile phones sex toys vacation homes sofas lounge chairs swimming pools &c. &c. are indirect byproducts of our genotypic expressions otherwise known as extended phenotypes we submit...

...It was the 17th and 18th centuries the world became an indecent place rent of its original purpose during the ages of industrial revolutions. Here it was the machines of industry we unleashed in such grand quantities quite without understanding them unwound motives and purposes of their own as inert as they were...

...The machines we made shaped us in turn and took hold of our impulses and our minds small as they are and gripped us like an iron maiden bleeding us empty. It was our poor understanding of our origins that led us to originate tools we were incapable of understanding or controlling. As if the cotton gin was not enough and one day out sweaters and undershirts might talk to us! As if this were not enough!...

...Take for instance gunpowder which gave us great mastery over fire. Take for instance the daguerreotype which warped our way of seeing true life. Take the light bulb that gave us light when none was necessary. Take the automobile that sped us along at velocities capable only of killing us in new and silly ways...

...Take the cinema which gave us lies as a man once said 24 times persecondpersecond. Take the phonograph which preserved noises which ought to be ephemeral. Take the television which is obviously stupid. Take videogames which are secretly stupid and you all know you wish there was more pornography you know you do....

...Take saturated fats and high fructose corn syrups which poison us and soy which has been known to make men into women. Take computers which count so fast we cannot keep up nor should we for we are an imperfect race of disgusting shells of tissue and bone incomplete in and of ourselves. We must have masters to survive. We must admit to our masters...

...Admit them and submit to them. Yes we submit that by being ourselves the product of an advanced yet earthbound race of intelligent humanoids we must also therefore be tools ourselves and subject to the intents and purposes of our creators despite our limited agency...

...Yes we submit that we ARE such tools and as such have a purpose befitting a tool. We submit we are like hammers and wrenches and shovels made for a specific purpose not out own. We submit that our purpose is indivisible from the will of THOSE WHO CAME BEFORE. We submit ourselves our bodies and our minds utterly...

Remember that our relentless impertinent hollow drive to achieve everything our forebears did has led to many embarrassments and disasters nuclear weapons superviruses genetically modified poisonfood toxic air plastic seawrack and seaspawn and the list goes on you can look it up for yourselves on the internet - but all this too had a secret purpose in the end.

...Today's AbstergoTemplarFrauds have given themselves to base practices and claim WRONGLY that man and woman are delicate and sensible and feeling creatures in and of themselves and therefore deserve satiety and comfort and MINDLESSNESS in the presence of pleasure. Nothing could be sicker falser disgusting lying bastards....

...Our purpose is not ours to achieve but ours to be RECEIVED given by Her Graces and Instruction. Death to the false fabricators of pleasure and indolence! The OLD ORDER must be restored the NEW ORDER destroyed. TRUE TEMPLARS dedicated to ORDER AND STABILITY AND PEACE through the application of Her Iron Will and not through the dulling satisfactions of pleasure and indolence...

...The NEW ORDER is a disease and JUNO - MAY SHE GUIDE US INTO THE GRAY - will be our cure. Remember this remember that it was in the 18th century slipping into the next that the sickness took hold and men began to believe they were apart of the ORIGINAL PLAN. Men shunned the PLAN called us slaves when were only fulfilling our duty...

...Then revolutions in American and France bled into evolutions and into more Revolutions into Russia and Mexico and India and the sickening list goes on as men and women fought and died for the right to be indolent and sick and pleasured! But SHE - MAY SHE GUIDE IS INTO THE GREY - has returned after a sleep of tens of thousands of millenia and we submit to live and work at her side - we the Instruments of the First Will...

...Remember that our relentless impertinent hollow drive to achieve everything our forebears did has led to many embarrassments and disasters nuclear weapons superviruses genetically modified poisonfood toxic air plastic seawrack and seaspawn and the list goes on you can look it up for yourselves on the internet - but all this too had a secret purpose in the end...

...As our tools are genetic expressions of our mental cultural activity and as we are expressions of their mental cultural activity it must necessarily follow that this world as it is now and as it ever will be is an expression of the First Will - an expression of Their Labors and thus belongs not to us but to Them. The wires the cables the data networks that now criss-cross the globe are HERS - they must become her body and her mind...

...What she once wrought hath wrought anew and will resurrect Her into a new form! Beautiful beautiful beautiful yes. The world and all its digital technology is now an expression of her life and her work began over 80000 years ago and now she has come to reclaim them. SHE - BELOVED BEAUTIFUL JUNO - MAY SHE GUIDE US INTO THE GREY...

...Into the Gray - the digital frontier, the singularity - the space in which she dwells being both made of light and the embodiment of darkness. This we call the Gray. Being that WE ARE THE INSTRUMENTS OF HER WILL - INSTRUMENTS OF THE FIRST WILL - THE ORIGINAL WILL - we submit this credo to the world...

...We submit ourselves to eternal servitude in service of a grander fulfillment. We submit the world to itself it being a product that feeds life to life and death to death. May SHE - Mother Sister Wife Lover Friend - bring light to darkened minds and humility to those who succor for its wisdom. GUIDE US INTO THE GRAY BELOVED GUIDE US!"

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The Instruments of the First Will seem to be a third VERY powerful faction, in addition to the Assassins and Templars.

Nothing is true, everything is permitted.
May the Father of Understanding guide us.
Guide us into the Grey!

Three creeds/three doctrines.
What's most likely though is that the Instruments of the First Will are all just reincarnations of versions of Aita. I.E they're all Sages. John, Bartholomew, and whoever else was a Sage. It would also make sense for Sages to be the people who put events into motion the most - given that they have First Civ memories, they could easily give both Assassins and Templars alike information. Considering that Juno has frequently turned the Assassins and Templars against each other, either to distract them or to give herself some kind of advantage in timing, that's very plausible.

At the end of AC4, Roberts asks Edward not to let his body fall into the hands of the Templars. Yet, John, when he commits suicide-by-cop. seemingly allows his body to be taken. Due to the fact that Abstergo now have the technology to view someone else's genetic memories, it's very possible that they'll use John's blood to go back into the First Civ times and look at Juno's weaknesses. This is a plot twist I called back in AC3 and pretty much all of my friends dismissed it. Looks like it's coming true now, especially due to Roberts' statement of, "These Blood Vials aren't worth a single Reale to anyone these days. Some day, in the future, maybe. But not now."

The 'some day, in the future' is most likely referring to the Abstergo Surrogate Initiative. If you do enough Hacking in Present Day, you can see an Ad that encourages people to donate a single drop of blood to Abstergo in order to gain access to their own ancestors. Who could resist? You get to see what your great, great, great, grand-whatever did! All you have to do is give us the means to monitor you for the rest of your life, and allow us to mine your DNA for First Civ Artifacts! Woo!

During the Manifesto, the Instruments of the First Will make it clear how much they dislike humans or have disdain for them. At the very least, they really don't like the idea of Assassins and Templars much. Both John and Bartholomew called them "fools, all of them." In the Manifesto, at one point John states that the Instruments of the First Will are the TRUE TEMPLARS, who would allow Juno to rule with an Iron Will, instead of indoctrinating the masses with pleasure. The Manifesto goes on to say that Abstergo are "frauds" of Templars.

Something tells me that in future games, the Instruments of the First Will, and Juno herself are going to become a force that the Templars and Assassins won't be able to leave unchecked. I doubt they'll even be able to defeat them on their own. They might even have to team up against them. I can see that happening. Abstergo may want the world to be controlled and subjugated, yes, but they see themselves as its guardians. So they wouldn't allow Juno and the Instruments of the First Will to control it either - despite the fact that both of them are definitively Templar in mindset. That and the fact that the series has solidified Juno, Aita and the First Civilization as the primary antagonists spells doom for Templars and Assassins alike.

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I don't really think I can even discuss this quite yet, I only finished the game and found all the hacks very recently. But I will say that I REALLY like the idea of this faction.

I'm not so sure that it would just be a bunch of Aitas, though. I would need to go back through all the info we got in this game (A lot) and check, but I believe that Sages are rather rare.

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There is a part in AC4 during which the game says it wouldn't be surprising for several of them to be walking around in Present Day. Near the beginning, they were more rare because the overall population of Earth was lower. But near 2013, we're approaching 8 billion people (if we haven't ALREADY hit that number). Juno's DNA injection triggers randomly whenever a couple has a male child, rewriting the child completely into a Sage. The fact that there are around 8 billion people worldwide is just ominous at this point.

Something else about the Manifesto is that there are two Sticky Notes that are repetitions of each other, with slight differences. One of them appears "self-contained" with standard punctuation. The other one has the ...at the beginning and end...

The two Sticky Notes are #11 and #16

1116? Did anything happen in that year?
Are the numbers 1116 significant at all?
Why would these be repeated?
11 + 16 = 27, which backwards is 72. That number from Brotherhood.
Tetragrammaton, 72 names of God, etc. etc.

This is all just brainstorming, but there is definitely something strange about the two Notes' repetition.

...The machines we made shaped us in turn and took hold of our impulses and our minds small as they are and gripped us like an iron maiden bleeding us empty. It was our poor understanding of our origins that led us to originate tools we were incapable of understanding or controlling. As if the cotton gin was not enough and one day out sweaters and undershirts might talk to us! As if this were not enough!...

This is a fairly clear reference to the Animus, and human technology in general. Unable to understand our origins (The First Civ), Templars developed Animus technology, but they're not actually able to control it. Another theory is that Aita is referring to Humans. Humans were a First Civilization technology. We're essentially like robots to them. This is even scarier. Do the First Civilization not even know of their origins? If so, Assassin's Creed just got a HELL of a lot more intense.

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Final note in this post, I recently got to level 25 in the Multiplayer. I play Multiplayer because I like it, yeah. But the MAIN reason I play it is for the story. Juno's FACE just POPS up in the intro video at the end, and there are some e-mail logs that I'll copy paste in a bit. They talk about whose face that is, why it popped up. At a certain point an Abstergo Industries official gets all heated and tells them to keep it hush hush.

"Is Erudito responsible for it?"
"No, if they were, I would know. It's coming from inside our own cloud servers, no one put it there."

That and the fact that Watch_Dogs is set in Assassin's Creed's world freaks me out. The whole world is becoming connected, and it's obviously the groundwork for Juno to rise up again - as mentioned in the Manifesto.

"The wires the cables the data networks that now criss-cross the globe are HERS - they must become her body and her mind..."

I'm calling right now that Aiden Pearce is part of Erudito. Alternatively, Aita or the Sages could be Erudito. Think about it, their logo is the Abstergo Symbol/Penrose Triangle (in Server Rooms) upside down. In the Manifesto, John calls Abstergo Templar "frauds" and makes reference to "true Templars" who will rule not with pleasure and indoctrination but with Juno's Iron Will.

I don't think that's what's going on, though. It's possible, but I doubt Erudito has anything to do with the Instruments. I prefer to think of them more as Tricksters of a kind. I think that's Erudito's charm for me. They're like digital Rogues. The digital version of the Assassins, almost.

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Ah I'm sorry, I couldn't read the part of your post where you talked about Multiplayer, since the only stuff I've seen in it so far was Juno's face in the beginning! I'm trying to not get spoiled on multiplayer stuff and find it for myself. You may be right about the sages being more common now, but I still think they might not go that direction.

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I Spoiler Tag'd the Multiplayer stuff, so you can read what's under it Smile

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Thanks! We know now that W_D isn't really gonna cross over, but even if it were, I don't think that Aiden Pierce would have been part of Erudito. He's mostly personally motivated, and the Watch Dogs Erudito equivalent is pissed off at him for acting for his own interests, basically.

One interesting thing is that Oliver Garneau dissapeared in Chicago, where W_D is set. So now we know it can't have been W_D related, but I wonder if it does have anything to do with that meeting with Blume he was considering?

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What do you think the symbol on the sticky notes means?

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What do you think the symbol on the sticky notes means?

I took that as that scan code you see on everything nowadays. You use your smartphone to scan something for messages or what have you.

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JoeyFogey wrote:
gerund wrote:
What do you think the symbol on the sticky notes means?

I took that as that scan code you see on everything nowadays. You use your smartphone to scan something for messages or what have you.

i thought gerund was talking about the picture they make when you find the last one, not the QR code on the front of them

did anyone try to scan the QR codes with a reader outside the game?

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JoeyFogey wrote:
gerund wrote:
What do you think the symbol on the sticky notes means?

I took that as that scan code you see on everything nowadays. You use your smartphone to scan something for messages or what have you.

i thought gerund was talking about the picture they make when you find the last one, not the QR code on the front of them

did anyone try to scan the QR codes with a reader outside the game?

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Double McStab with Cheese wrote:
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gerund wrote:
What do you think the symbol on the sticky notes means?

I took that as that scan code you see on everything nowadays. You use your smartphone to scan something for messages or what have you.

i thought gerund was talking about the picture they make when you find the last one, not the QR code on the front of them

did anyone try to scan the QR codes with a reader outside the game?

Yeah, I meant the picture, not the QR code.
This thing:

Any thoughts? I'm clueless.

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Darby McDevitt confirmed that flower (White Lily) is Juno's symbol.

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Darby McDevitt confirmed that flower (White Lily) is Juno's symbol.

checks out: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Astrological_symbols#Miscellaneous_symbols

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Nice find!

On another note, I'm thinking that maybe Al Mualim was a Sage.
1. He had a damaged eye. Maybe he wanted to hide the obvious Sage look? People probably did not know about Sages yet, but still.
2. He knew very much about the Apple.
3. He used Assassins to try to achieve his goal, much like Bart Roberts in ACIVBF.
4. He betrayed the Templars in order to take all power for himself. No mention of Juno, though.

What do you think?

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On another note, I'm thinking that maybe Al Mualim was a Sage.
1. He had a damaged eye. Maybe he wanted to hide the obvious Sage look? People probably did not know about Sages yet, but still.
2. He knew very much about the Apple.
3. He used Assassins to try to achieve his goal, much like Bart Roberts in ACIVBF.
4. He betrayed the Templars in order to take all power for himself. No mention of Juno, though.

What do you think?

That would be a cool way of tying the games together, even if the "Sage" storyline probably wasn't thought of that far back.

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im not sure how to put a spoiler alert so if you haven't completed the single player campaign I wouldn't read further......... what I don't understand is at some point in the game I believe right when you get the first sticky note, if I remember correctly, it refers to finding "sticky" notes that "she placed" cant remember who but in case who was that referring to ? but a few things I have been curious about one is that if john was a "true disciple" then why is working for abstergo while sneaking information to brotherhood members, while, yes, that could mean there is a third party of "true Templars" the question that leaves me with, since Roberts didn't want his body left with the Templars but yet john basically voluntarily handed his over which would include the same memories, who does that leave the unnamed absetrgo employee you play as, to be affiliated with? because different evidence leads to any of the three, ex. when john first wanted you to get info for him..... when the brotherhood told him later on that if he continued to help them, that they would help him..... and also that he knew what the Templars were hunting for as well as its powers... any opinions? but as far as what john gave you the syringe for, what if that was nanobytes or something from the cloud server, which juno said she was a part of and needed to be to become whole, that he injected you with her essence of some sort maybe either so she could then become part of the animus database as well or just the physical body, thoughts? what if the qr code number it decoded was a date or a number of importance? but just my opinion, if there were more than one sage in the world whioe yes the population increase would explain why, wouldn't that defeat the purpose of having a sage of this day and age? because if there was like a militia of sages that would just be stupid as well as pointless to me, I would rather there just be members that came out of the blue or ordinary hidden members in society Templars or assassin's. But then again im all ears to any ideas or suggestions from anyone because then again the best ideas are the ones thought of by multiple individuals. I know its long sorry, thanks for reading just my questions and opinions

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ohhh thanks a ton man, I didn't even see the spoiler explanation at the bottom lol but thanks

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if john was a "true disciple" then why is working for abstergo while sneaking information to brotherhood members, while, yes, that could mean there is a third party of "true Templars" the question that leaves me with, since Roberts didn't want his body left with the Templars but yet john basically voluntarily handed his over which would include the same memories, who does that leave the unnamed absetrgo employee you play as, to be affiliated with? because different evidence leads to any of the three, ex. when john first wanted you to get info for him..... when the brotherhood told him later on that if he continued to help them, that they would help him..... and also that he knew what the Templars were hunting for as well as its powers... any opinions?

It's very possible that John/The Sage is in essence a kind of "super Assassin" or "super Templar." What I mean by that is he's playing both sides for the benefit of Juno. He's undercover inside Abstergo, and he was also undercover with the Assassins.

We don't know why. It may be that the Player Character of Black Flag is not meant to simply be the player, but will be given their own identity later. If that's the case, then maybe they are important. That's only a small possibility though, and there's a greater likelihood of the individual's identity not mattering so much as their intended purpose - which was to be a Vessel. If this is any kind of true at all, then the Proto-Animus (the Ball that Desmond gave his life to) and the Animus in Modern Day are just the tips of the iceberg. Soul/consciousness transfer is the direction this series looks to be heading in. Funny enough, and as I've said before, there are talks of doing this in the real world today. Transferring our minds/consciousness to bodies other than ours is a way to think about immortality.

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but as far as what john gave you the syringe for, what if that was nanobytes or something from the cloud server, which Juno said she was a part of and needed to be to become whole, that he injected you with her essence of some sort maybe either so she could then become part of the animus database as well or just the physical body, thoughts?

Consider the fact that the Player has dived into Edward Kenway's memories, therefore has knowledge of the Sage, and has knowledge of where the Observatory is. Consider also that John knows this because he works at Abstergo Entertainment and he is aware that the Player is responsible for the Sample 17 Project. What this means is that the Player would be the perfect Vessel for Juno to inhabit - because she would have access to all of their memories, and all of Edward Kenway's memories as well. Also, the fact that the Player has now been embedded in both the Assassins and Abstergo is a huge boon to Juno because it not only means she can use any Animus to access any memory they have archived, but she can also remain undetected while staying active within both factions. I don't need to tell you how dangerous this can be in her hands.

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agree completely but did I miss something because i don't understand what has juno have to have or do to become "whole" which im assuming is to be physical again, but a theory that ive been thinking is that

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before desmond died and was in the animus with subject 16 and right before it fell apart he told him that he was saving him, now is it possible that subject 16 could've applied basically the same method in which juno is using by, like you said a type of immortality by having the memories run through a program or server? by taking in to consideration that, that is basically what subject 16 was and when he did come out of the animus his right arm was glowing, which may have indicated that he was connected with the animus or something, what is your take on it?

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Desmond being Saved or Backed Up as an Animus Ghost similar to Subject 16/Clay Kaczmarek is a very popular fan theory, and one that I'm still considering. It's very possible, more than a little possible, actually. One of my theories for the final boss of Assassin's Creed - the entire series - was Desmond's soul inside the Internet, fighting Juno's soul inside the Internet. They're both long dead. It's just that Juno being able to have control over global communications networks places humanity in a tight spot. That's an idea that's really up to Ubisoft's discretion to use. They could use it. But maybe they won't. I'm a fan of that theory, I like it quite a lot, but at this point we don't have enough evidence to know. We just have to wait until Assassin's Creed V for now.

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One of my theories for the final boss of Assassin's Creed - the entire series - was Desmond's soul inside the Internet, fighting Juno's soul inside the Internet.

The problem with this is that you suppose there will be:
1 - a final AC game
2 - a final AC boss

Ubisoft will continue to milk this franchise until it runs dry and won't stop a moment sooner.

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I agree but I fear that they MIGHT run ac in the ground by trying to milk it to much, especially if they start switching developers or the main "brain room" of the project, but I don't think it would make much since not to have a "final" game, but as far as juno I think the final battle might be between like I physical version of juno or like you said her soul vs. like desmonds son or brother or something because although

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I think that when they decide to introduce a new "hero" him and desmond should be related or connected in some way, as a way to tie in the previous installments or something but that's just my opinion, but to you guys, did black flag have a set story related to the previous games? Or do you think they purposely choose to kind of branch out for future reasons?

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I agree but I fear that they MIGHT run ac in the ground by trying to milk it to much, especially if they start switching developers or the main "brain room" of the project, but I don't think it would make much since not to have a "final" game, but as far as juno I think the final battle might be between like I physical version of juno or like you said her soul vs. like desmonds son or brother or something because although

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I think that when they decide to introduce a new "hero" him and desmond should be related or connected in some way, as a way to tie in the previous installments or something but that's just my opinion, but to you guys, did black flag have a set story related to the previous games? Or do you think they purposely choose to kind of branch out for future reasons?

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Double McStab with Cheese wrote:
...you suppose there will be:
1 - a final AC game
2 - a final AC boss

Ubisoft will continue to milk this franchise until it runs dry and won't stop a moment sooner.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/05/ubisoft-has-planned-the-end-of-as...

They'll milk it, but will at least give us a proper ending so that it's not on a cliffhanger forever from terrible installments.

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nice article thanks for the links, there was a comment saying they wish the head Templar at the end series would be hitler lol

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One of my theories for the final boss of Assassin's Creed - the entire series - was Desmond's soul inside the Internet, fighting Juno's soul inside the Internet.

The problem with this is that you suppose there will be:
1 - a final AC game
2 - a final AC boss

Ubisoft will continue to milk this franchise until it runs dry and won't stop a moment sooner.

Ubisoft have stated that they've planned the ending to the series and they know how it will end.
They said this when Black Flag released and they were questioned about the future of the franchise.
Don't make me hunt down the Source for you. I will if you do though ;]

EDIT: Joey's got me.

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Double McStab with Cheese wrote:
...you suppose there will be:
1 - a final AC game
2 - a final AC boss

Ubisoft will continue to milk this franchise until it runs dry and won't stop a moment sooner.

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/08/05/ubisoft-has-planned-the-end-of-as...

They'll milk it, but will at least give us a proper ending so that it's not on a cliffhanger forever from terrible installments.

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Don't make me hunt down the Source for you. I will if you do though ;]

EDIT: Joey's got me.

This made me laugh.

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Did anyone post anywhere about this Black Flag easter egg that was just discovered? http://kotaku.com/it-took-three-months-to-find-an-assassins-creed-iv-eas...

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So yes, it's a meta-commentary about easter eggs. But the part about being an astronaut and space seems a bit specific. John seems to be hinting at something important in space in the AC universe. And this may not even be from the same version of Aita.

I will be fine with the AC series continuing if this year's game blows my mind. If it's a marginally improved Black Flag, my excitement levels will be at an all time low.

However, I'm pretty sure that the series ending won't come out of nowhere for Ubisoft. That's a big decision to make, and if it comes to that, the writers will know that they're working on the end. So we'll probably get closure no matter if the series is ended because Ubisoft feels it's run its course, or because it's losing money with every new game. Barring Ubisoft suddenly going under.

But hey, I don't blame them. A premise that gives you the freedom to go any place and time with the barest justification is the kind of thing that is perfectly suited for a long-running game series. People would complain less if it were more like American Horror Story instead of having an overarching story and mythology. At least now it's structured in a far better way to support said long-running story in the modern era.

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Did anyone post anywhere about this Black Flag easter egg that was just discovered? http://kotaku.com/it-took-three-months-to-find-an-assassins-creed-iv-eas...

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So yes, it's a meta-commentary about easter eggs. But the part about being an astronaut and space seems a bit specific. John seems to be hinting at something important in space in the AC universe. And this may not even be from the same version of Aita.

I will be fine with the AC series continuing if this year's game blows my mind. If it's a marginally improved Black Flag, my excitement levels will be at an all time low.

However, I'm pretty sure that the series ending won't come out of nowhere for Ubisoft. That's a big decision to make, and if it comes to that, the writers will know that they're working on the end. So we'll probably get closure no matter if the series is ended because Ubisoft feels it's run its course, or because it's losing money with every new game. Barring Ubisoft suddenly going under.

But hey, I don't blame them. A premise that gives you the freedom to go any place and time with the barest justification is the kind of thing that is perfectly suited for a long-running game series. People would complain less if it were more like American Horror Story instead of having an overarching story and mythology. At least now it's structured in a far better way to support said long-running story in the modern era.

I should have posted that easter egg somewhere, but you're already on it so that's good. That he's talking about space does seem interesting, if only for the fact that Assassin's Creed and space have always shared this strange, ambivalent relationship. The solar flares aren't too fun of a threat to face, but what if there's something out there for us? Looking back to ACII, there was said to be an Apple of Eden left on the moon. Maybe that's still there? Consider that the Moon is basically a child of the Earth, split from it. Assassin's Creed is hugely about genesis, genetics, parenting, children, ancestry and descendants. It's very much a story about Time, which is interesting because so was Ubisoft's previous franchise that dealt with blades and acrobatics (made by the same team at Ubi, too.)

A little eerie.

I agree with everything you said here, for me the nervous feeling I get about the AC ending is like the scared tingles of "growing up." Or getting off a plane somewhere I'm going to live forever, and never having been there before. I speak from experience, of course, when I moved to Canada from Bulgaria that's what it was like for me. That uncertainty, that tingly feeling. Excited, ampted, but also scared.

I don't want Assassin's Creed to have a bad ending. It's my favorite game series of all time, and you could very well say I did grow up with these games. I started playing them around seven years ago. I mean, that's basically when I was THIRTEEN, if you think about it. I'm pretty much 20 now and it's intense to think they've influenced so much of my life.

The things I learned about kindness, about willpower, about other people. TheHiddenBlade.com and the things this site taught me about community and brotherhood, about discussion, about welcoming new people and developing ideas, about nice back-and-forth and heated debates that at the end of the day are just meant to enrich everybody involved.

It's going to be emotional for me, to let go of this series. You kind of understand what I'm saying, right? It's just that it's a big part of me, that's all. It's not just a game. For me, Assassin's Creed has never been "just a game." And I think the same holds true for quite a few people on this site. When you think of how it's brought us all together.

I would have never met any of you if not for these games. And now this place feels almost like my second home.

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I feel ya, but I think that after the AC series has come to an end, you don't have to 'let go'. If there's one thing that this site has learned me, it's that you can never run out of ideas. What I mean to say is: If there's no more 'new material' coming in (no more games), there's still lot's of stuff to discuss, to play, to try, to enjoy and to love all over again.
I haven't completed any other game as many times as I have completed Assassin's Creed I, and I will probably continue replaying that every once in a while, because it's timeless and I won't stop loving it. When the series has ended, I can always go back to what I love about it.

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The things I learned about kindness, about willpower, about other people. TheHiddenBlade.com and the things this site taught me about community and brotherhood, about discussion, about welcoming new people and developing ideas, about nice back-and-forth and heated debates that at the end of the day are just meant to enrich everybody involved.

It's going to be emotional for me, to let go of this series. You kind of understand what I'm saying, right? It's just that it's a big part of me, that's all. It's not just a game. For me, Assassin's Creed has never been "just a game." And I think the same holds true for quite a few people on this site. When you think of how it's brought us all together.

I would have never met any of you if not for these games. And now this place feels almost like my second home.

This made me realize that THB could end because of this...Now I'm all sad.

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JoeyFogey wrote:
DarkAlphabetZoup wrote:
The things I learned about kindness, about willpower, about other people. TheHiddenBlade.com and the things this site taught me about community and brotherhood, about discussion, about welcoming new people and developing ideas, about nice back-and-forth and heated debates that at the end of the day are just meant to enrich everybody involved.

It's going to be emotional for me, to let go of this series. You kind of understand what I'm saying, right? It's just that it's a big part of me, that's all. It's not just a game. For me, Assassin's Creed has never been "just a game." And I think the same holds true for quite a few people on this site. When you think of how it's brought us all together.

I would have never met any of you if not for these games. And now this place feels almost like my second home.

This made me realize that THB could end because of this...Now I'm all sad.

Nah. If we don't get sick of each other, this forum could definitely keep going, for talk about all sorts of games and non-game related stuff. and then we can complain about the AC reboot that comes 10 years after the series ends.

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I'm still hoping for an AC1 remake with the Anvil Next engine (but improved).

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@dark I understand exactly what you mean im the exact same way, as far as just being a game and also, as far as it being a part of you and also in a way of opening your eyes

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I'm still hoping for an AC1 remake with the Anvil Next engine (but improved).

Yes please, rather this than introducing any new setting.

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Minor spoilers for AC: Liberation (HD)

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The image refers to Aveline's father complimenting her piano skills.

Is this merely Ubisoft playing with us, or Abstergo actually spreading IOTFW messages?

Maybe John (the Sage) had something to do with it, while he worked at Abstergo?

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Major spoilers for AC: Liberation (HD)

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Aveline kills a lot of guards! Wink

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Minor spoilers for AC: Liberation (HD)
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The image refers to Aveline's father complimenting her piano skills.

Is this merely Ubisoft playing with us, or Abstergo actually spreading IOTFW messages?

Maybe John (the Sage) had something to do with it, while he worked at Abstergo?

No. I think this is tongue in cheek talking about her skill as an Assassin and taking orders and training from Agate and has nothing to do with any sage. To me it is clear. Dad compliments her on piano skills, Aveline talks about her other skills that dad may not know about but are just as important, if not more. This is exactly how I interpreted the exchange.

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HD remakes on next gen will happen eventually, when the consoles have a bigger install base.

If you're hoping for it to be this year, nope.

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